‘Why I hate Harry Potter’. I have to confess that I agree with Robert Winder on this completely. While I’m all for anything that encourages people to read, I’d much rather read something good, myself. Yes, I’m a curmudgeonly old fart, I admit. I also hate trash TV and almost all advertising and become irritated quite quickly with hype of every kind. Maybe I should go and live in a cave.
has anyone else noticed since the last film got some terrible review, that the tide is turning for HP even kids who are few years ago loved the little sod, now thing he’s boring. even my 13 year old nephew who would rather read charlie higsons young James bond?
why are u idiots intent on hating hp, provided none has a proper arguement to do so? idiots, get a life, and stop being jealous.
Hey, Goonja, why are you searching for sites that don’t like Harry Potter in order to insult its visitors with a post the quality of a text message on a mobile phone?
Heh, thanks Jessica. Your observation shows two things. First, that children are either growing up and noticing that all the Harry Potter books are exactly the same in portraying him as a freaking GOD, or they are (no offence to children) overly frivolous.
And secondly, the books are not good enough to hold a child’s attention, regardless of the quality of the movies.
A good book can be made into a bad movie. But that doesn’t mean the book deterioates in quality. But if the book was bad, and the movie just gave it good press, the bad movie means people lose interest – not that the rather arrogant and overly lucky Harry was interesting anyway. Rowling gave away her survivors when she didn’t ask if she was allowed to meet dead characters BEFORE she named Harry, Hermione and Ron.
Which indicates that as well as not being a good writer, she’s not too bright either.
i agree with you Harley, any writer with a sense of intelligence has the ability to bend and break the codes and conventions of the fantasy genre. also i read that the release date for the last (thank god) move will be 2011, so upon writing this we have just under 2 years of harry potter freedom. lets celebrate!!!
Something occurred to me about Quidditch, the most stupid sport ever invented.
First, people with the best broomsticks are allowed to use those broomsticks as an advantage. That’s in no way fair. And it’s been mentioned that the best broomsticks are expensive too, so if you can’t afford them, you’re just at a disadvantage. A fact which you can suck on. Thus, the rich kids have an advantage over the poor kids.
Oh, sure, Harry’s beaten the kids with super-better broomsticks but that doesn’t seem to make much sense to me; it just says, “Look how awesome Harry is”.
Second, why not have two kids fly around looking for Snitches the whole game, since that’s the only thing that ends the game? They’ve said that once a game lasted two weeks – did nobody even consider giving up? Or is Quidditch just that popular?
And third, and the worst part that hasn’t been noticed yet – the points won by playing a game of Quidditch go towards winning the house cups. Shouldn’t the points only be won by good schoolwork and obedience? But no, a vast number of the points won go towards the HOUSE cup, and not a seperate Quidditch cup.
Owing to the fact that rich kids with good broomsticks have an advantage over regular kids, this means that wealthy jocks are more likely to win a cup intended to promote hard work and intelligence. How much sense does that make?
And you know what else about the House Cup points? Teachers seem to be allowed to choose how many points to give and take, so if they have favorites for some reason they are likely to give more points. But Quidditch points are pre-determined.
I hate Quidditch as much as I hate Harry Potter. Partly because it was invented by Rowling to give him more glory.
that really is the problem with potter isn’t it. it’s a middle class story of a middle class woman, who actually claimed she wrote this book living in some sort of ghetto! we all know what the reality is! but moving on/ has anyone else but me noticed the hype for the last (thank god) movie would normally be reaching fever pitch by now! i’ve heard no buzz so far. Hummm maybe people are finally growing out of it now twilight has come along (another boring book by the way)
For ppl lyk Hannah anne and goonja , really,what are hp fans doing in this substandard place? Ppl lyk harley(who cant think anything better than to get children read stuff lyk “”Going through puberty, looking up skirts, analising girls breasts”) would never understand the true essnce of haary potter. I myself started reading it in march 2007 at the age of 16 and soon harry became something of my god, a guide not only harry though ,except ron I am thankful to all characters . and where isit mentioned that a series hero has to be flawless? So hp haters go read wells,Sheldon or even brown , and write essays on how silly harry potter is. This site is yours. Have a lot of “fun”.
Ps to harley. (incase you missed books 2,4 and 6)
1. better brooms can be deafeated. This proves galleons cant win every thing.
2. you may lose a game even if you get the snitch. So co-ordination and determination speaks in quiddicch.
So hp lovers, don’t visit this site. Yo’ll find many a goodones to vent your feelings.
Well. I’m not entirely certain what most of that said, but thank you, ‘harry pottergirl’. We atheists are always grateful to the enlightened when they smile condescendingly to us.
in my last post i made a mistake taking anne’s name. i should have written ioo or amy,who appears to be hp fans. so i’m sorry anne. it was a mistake.
The Snitch wins 150 points and ends the game. The game does not end until the Snitch is caught, regardless of how long it takes to catch it. It is not impossible to lose the game even if you catch the Snitch, but it’s been shown that if you can’t win the game by catching the Snitch, you should concentrate on stopping the other team from catching it.
This is done by beating the living hell out of each other.
And better brooms can be defeated; I already acknowledged that. But obviously better brooms STILL have an unfair advantage.
Harry Potter, a canon Gary Stu and a prick, is the only person who shows such a thing is possible – because nobody else is as good as him.
And you’re STILL not taking my point that Quidditch points count towards House Cup points.
And you should learn to spell.
1 hour nicely spent. no one attacked the religious side? strange.
sorry , but harry is a great role model. so there
Well people. as if we could forget. the harry potter theme park is about to open. now after reading the books, gathering all the merchandise and forcing your parents to take you to see the film…now you can live the dream/nightmare
Hm… uh… let’s see… not much, but I think I’ll scrounge up a bit…
1. It has suspense, it’s not predictable.
2. On that note, it has a plot.
3. The characters aren’t one-dimensional.
4. It doesn’t use long adjectives to make it seem like good writing.
5. It’s good writing.
6. It’s interesting.
7. It is solely not about romance.
8. It doesn’t have brain-dead fangirls
9. It doesn’t have brain-dead characters
10. Did I mention it has a plot?
11. It’s creative
12. It has depth
13. It’s not cliche
14. Characters .are lively
15. Characters don’t jump off cliffs because of imperfect love lives.
16. Characters don’t HAVE to have a partner- they can actually live without one.
17. It has more than one strong character.
18. the characters develop
19. Harry Potter will be remembered, even commended 50 years from now.
20. JK Rowling has the plots beforehand, she doesn’t just think of them as she writes.
21. Male characters don’t dominate the females.
22. The fans actually realize that the characters aren’t real (
23. It has good writing style
24. The message is good.
25. Characters don’t get pregnant and married before they get out of college and are still a teenager.
26. Harry Potter has few, insignificant plotholes not many major ones.
27. The fans of Harry Potter can take it if someone doesn’t like HP, .
28. It appeals to more than brain-dead 15 year old girls.
I could probably go on forever. And yes, I’m obviously a Harry Potter fan
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this is awesome. can u suggest another hate hp blog?
I’d have to dissagree with you on some points, Noxy, she does love her adjectives, our JK! and I consider it a bit of a cliche storm. Some of the characters are great, but there’s not enough going on with them, and she killed all the ones I liked. I also found them to be incredibly predictable, even down to Dobby’s death by knife throwing. Otherwise, fair enough.
About the plot; It seems people wanted to call it the most unique plot in the universe, but I can’t see it.
I had to laugh that you were forced to list “plot” twice, noxy. A lot of books have plots. That is why they are books and not dictionaries. Also, if Harry Potter fans can “take it if someone doesn’t like HP”, how do they keep popping up here…?
Good for you, though. I haven’t met many Harry Potter fans who can admit he’s fake. I’m being serious.
And… I just got a little sidetracked. My apologies.
Incidentally and in general, I thought the name of the owl was kinda funny. It always makes me think of Hedwig and the Angry Inch.
One thing that stays in the back of my mind when reading the books, that I’ve never been ables to explain propery, is the “deep meaning” and symbolism. I have nothing against symbolism and meaning, that’s what I read for, but Jk seems to miss the mark.
It’s like she wants her books to be in someway meaningful, so she hits us over the head with it. All those meaningful names and silly puns just look like a way to say “aren’t I clever?” and she spends far too long on them, I don’t care what minor no 3’s name means, I’ll never see him again anyway.
As for the deepness, it feels more like she just made the books grimdark, not more mature or interesting. It’s not as deep as people think, when you get down to it. She never explores the implications of her own world, like;
1) Why do Death Eaters follow their boss, surely they have their own motives other than “I’m evil!”
2) How would wizards react to losing magic and having to cope as muggles?
3) How would muggles react to knowlege that they could have their mind messed with at any moment by wizards, and that the govenment is OK with it?
4) And, as said before on this post, what about the wizards putting all their hopes in the hands of children, why would thay even risk it?
5) Why would they allow slytherins to exist, or Hogwars even, when Slythering house seems to be the root of all evil? Surely meging the houses would fix the problem? Personally I would have loved that.
Does it matters to anyone in this board that REPUTED authors like STEPHEN KING has called J.K.R a terrific writer? So verdicts of unknown nobodies little matters. Actually as a Harry potter fan, it is my duty to defend my favorite characters. also, its just plain fun to read through the opinions of HP haters. Moreover I love debating on a topic about Harry potter. As everyone has freedom of speech, a HP fan CAN post in a hate Harry Potter board right?
The entire thing was terribly funny though. Will be back soon.
The answer to your question, percyfony, is no, nobody cares. “REPUTED authors like STEPHEN KING” have (note the use of “have” instead of “has”) a right to their own opinion, just as you and I.
And we find this page terrifically fun as well. Happy landings to you.
No, percyfony, celebrities’ opinion matters very little. They’re entitled to have them same as anybody else, but the fact that they’re famous shouldn’t mean that their tastes are worth anything more than anyone else’s.
If you believe they should you do, sadly, fit into the stereotype of the non-thinking JKR fandom many people here are annoyed with.
I don’t think AUTHORS can be called celebrities they are intellectuals(maybe except a few, but not King). they are definitely above the league of miley cyrus, jhonny depp etc. and someone with many books to their names can judge others books. But the everyones opinions equally matters part is really true.
I saw something on local news the other day about the Harry Potter amusement park thing, and the best I can figure they don’t believe there’s Harry Potter is even worth new rides. It seems all the rides were already in use, they’ve just revamped them. Supposedly there’s one where you can ride “hippogriffs,” and guess what that used to be.
“Flying Unicorn.”
I dunno about King, I don’t know him personally, but I’m not going to base my opinion on any author’s. I think JK has potential, and should not have been so popular the first time around. As a first try, it’s good. A second try could have been even better, but now I think she’ll just leave it. That, apart from the other stuff, annoys me, because now she thinks she’s done her best, and now we’ll never find out.
I also don’t take any value from his insulting Meyer’s writing either, everyone knows she’s bad.
I read some critical readings on hp, just because they were sitting there in the library and I was curious. Turns out even supposed non biased critiquers will try anything to convince you JK can do no wrong, and justify her mistakes.
Noxy is entitled to her opinion but most of the things on her little list are things a book should have, and she doesn’t explain how her list is accurate anyway.
So in the story, nobody gets pregnant before they’re married. How does that make Harry Potter a good series? Is it because we’re all supposed to follow his example and perform magic?
The Harry Potter series is like Enid Blyton’s Malory Towers, except with magic. It has about the same amount of suspense too.
The last two books are coming out as one movie. How much does that say for the worthy content of those two books, that they can’t make two movies out of them?
you are soooooooooooo !!!! dear harley the last book is 2 movies. The last 2 books are comming out as 3 movies not one How much does that say for the worthy content of those two books now?. And the pregnant thing points at the moral lessons which twilight series lacks. this hp haters!! can’t even get their facts right.
I agree. There are a lot of books where nobody gets pregnant, and not all of them are of any quality whatsoever. But really, Potter was the luckiest little snot alive NOT to have become a father before marriage. It seemed like every time you turned around he and that… the red-head girl, Ginny, right?… were getting it on, if you’ll pardon the crudity.
Incidentally, according to Wikipedia, they’re expanding the last book into two movies, since they evidently can’t fit all the corpses on screen in just one.
What a logic! Anne will you be kind enough to mention a few literary pieces that are really good? I’d love to read them myself.
and compare potter to those
All PPL WHO HATE GOD POTTER SHOULD GO **** AND DIE. HARRY POTTER IS GREEEEEEEEEEEEATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. PEOPLE WHO DENIES ARE NINCOMPOOPS AND MASSIVE HORSESHITS***##@@$@@#
Beg pardon, but isn’t it a bit oxymoronic to say “****” and then “HORSESHITS” in the same breath? What a perfect metaphor for the books.
And to all those who also post on this board, I apologize for being a troll-enabler. I just find it quite humorous that they scream “Hrry sa GAWD!”, and then you scroll over their name and find a link to the very board dedicated to the rest of us. My apologies.
whoever that harryalltheway is is too cheap too be a true potter fan. Such language! ahem Anne i was expecting you too give me the names of a few books that you have read and enjoyed. If you please?
i mean ‘to’
Funny thing – I can contradict every HP haters comments. Cuz most of them does’nt make any sence at all. Ha!
Jst lyke tht sintance!
my spelling’s better than the 2nd hahaha.
my, my talk about some hating going on. ok next and last movie is out soon…and then it will be over. thank god
Nope. it’s 2nd last. last part is to be on 2012. and do you really think harry will ever fade away? hahaha. It’s not twilight .
ok this week the new film comes out. every time i turn on the news it’s about potter, when i pick up a paper it’s about potter. anyone else bored already?
I hear she’s getting a medal now. How are the last two films going to play out? All I can remember was camping.
I, personally am sick of the discussions over the merits of Potter vs. Twilight. Ya got the two factions and they’re constantly trying to enlist you, and they just don’t seem to realize that some of us JUST DON”T CARE ANYMORE.
Argh.
Even worse is when you admit you don’t care/don’t like them much anyway and they launch the ad hominem attacks and try to kill you over the internet. There is nothing worse than a snotty fan who deliberately seeks out critical essays and writes snotty comments.
Oh, and my favorite circular argument is when fans of both try to sell their series as deep, thought provoking and revolutionary, then say “They’re not supposed to be masterpieces!” when you disagree. Honestly, how dare I expect more from the two greatest writers to hit Britain and America!
Harry Potter is a world 40 years out of date. It’s like Hogwartz is a school for the 70s or something.Not only that, but it’s implausible. Now I know magic isn’t the best thing to vote up plausibility but a good fantasy book can make their magic… connect in some way.
In Rowling’s books, everything magical is explained simply by ‘It’s magic’. A wizard did it. It seems there’s nothing you can’t do with magic; it has no limitations. There’s just the law against it. There doesn’t seem to be any reason why you can’t blow somebody’s head off. And wands have so much power. It’s like it’s perfectly lawful to put a loaded gun in a child’s hand and not even teach them how to use it safely; you’re just praying that they don’t make a few things burst into flame spontaneously.
And of course there’s the idea of everybody in Slytherin being bad. Why do they spend their time dividing everybody up and putting ‘good’ people in one house and bad people in another? That’s like cultural dividing. It’s just going to make things worse. If most of the Slytherins turn out to be jerkasses, why doesn’t the Hat of Destiny just say, “No, this one’s a bad egg; better not train him.”
And is Hogwarts the ONLY wizarding school in England?
The HP world just falls apart if you look at it closely enough doesn’t it? And yet they try to convince me that it’s the most well thought out of any made up world ever! I can’t even imagine what Hogsmeade is supposed to look like, but I can see Ankh Morpork perfectly clearly, even down to the cobblestones.
most fans will argue that lots of books use the standard wizards, magic schools, monsters etc. But the don’t seem to understand that most writers use these as a base and build up, making something new but familiar.
Do we know what voldermort’s motives were, and his wizard Nazis? I can only remember eevil with a side of racism, classism? Whatever, they want to create a master race, so subtle, well done. I think she forgot that even Nazis were people, with their own beliefs. They were human and their actions were all the worse for that. Evil wizards are not scary because they’re not human, it’s safe to read about them because we know good will alway triumph. It’s not that simple with people, you can understand their reasoning even if it’s detestable. With evil, you don’t need to think about it, it can’t effect you.
That’s why HP fails in the deepness department. It tries to be about war, but there’s so much more to it than the big battles and angsting, even if it is a kid’s book. I didn’t see any real battle plans either, just leave it to the kids, it’ll be fine. And then everything’s fine at the end, no mourning, no memorials or remembrance day.
And yes, I think Hogwarts is the only magic school.
Your stupid
Are you just sulking because you can’t think of a better rebuttal? Go on, tell me why or I won’t take you seriously. I’m sure you’ll think of something to put all us mean critics in our place, I’ll wait.
Face it, HP and Twilight are Star Wars and Trek all over again, It’s got the same crazy fans, the same amount of gushing and the same tendency for fans to go insane if it’s not your thing. Only difference is instead of learning Klingon, they’ll learn spells.
And you know why us haters write more about the bad than fans about the good? Because there’s more of it.
Oh, and it’s “You are” or “You’re”. Honestly, read a decent book and learn some English.
“And you know why us haters write more about the bad than fans about the good? Because there’s more of it.”
and that’s why this is the only site dedicated to hating HP. and there are a lot more dedicated to loving it. There are more haters here as it is a hate hp spot. Not a debate one. If you want a debate, link it to fanpop or something. Go on I dare you. Actually , this site appears to be the only safe heaven of Harry haters. if you want better understanding of the series, you can always get it at dedicated fansites. Ohh and my English improved soooooo much. Didn’t it? reading Harry potter?
I have a wonderful understanding of the HP series, and this site is for people who want to have an opinion. I don’t care anymore, I just want you lot to stop putting me down because I don’t like your precious little book OK? Ya know love, calling me stupid because I tried to make a reasonable case for the way I feel about all this was unnecessary. I have debated a lot on these subjects an I’m willing to bet I’m far more well read than you, hence how I can analyse this book and find it wanting, just like so many others. The problem os YOU. YOU are an obnoxious fan and you and people like you quite frankly p*** me off.
It is called an opinion, I don’t hate HP or JK Rowling, I hate the fans that call me stupid and act like babies when I express an opinion after years of reading, writing and studying literature.
I don’t care how many people love this book, the same amount loved star trek and star-wars. Most people can se the flaws but once you couldn’t say a bad word without being vulcan nerve pinched. It’s a fad, deal with it.
Sorry everyone on this thread, I don’t mean to be mean, but I can’t understand the fan’s attitude to criticism. This isn’t going to be a flame war so I’m ending the discussion with Miss Weasly, G’day.